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Marco

marco@consani.co.uk marcoonrunning.blogspot.com/


Mar 18, 08 - 7:39 AM
Bumbags n' sacks

I am having a bit of a dilemma. Being a race virgin I have no idea what I should take on the race to carry my gear, food and hydration. I have tried bumbags, hydration packs, no packs and nothing seems to do the job with them all having issues.
Does anyone have any suggestions or is it all just down to personal preference and I just can't make up my mind.

Marco
Mike Mason



Mar 18th, 2008 - 8:06 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Marco, all down to preference - from Jezz's 1 hand held bottle and a vest to my 1.5L Camelback AND a small bumbag for a few of life's luxuries.

Succeed pills, painkillers, MP3 and spare battery if not around neck, gels, pace times chart (plasticised and never adhered to), compeed plasters and of course TP. I would add compass but Dario would cry foul!

If you can set a strategy that maximises meets with yr support crew you can minimise what you carry. I just like to be confident that if anything happens to them (breakdown etc) I am still self-sufficient for a while....

Others will have their own needs to satisfy...DQ with his video camera and team, and Dave W with his travelling brewery....
Murdo McEwan



Mar 18th, 2008 - 8:21 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

I think it is down to personal preference, and a bit of trial and error to see what suits you best.

A lot of folk swear by hydration packs; others wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

Regarding bum bags, I know that whw runner has had (what looks to me like) a large and uncomfortable bouncy bum bag. But when I commented to him that it looked large and bouncy and uncomfortable, he said that was what he likes.

You could have a look at film footage of previous races (eg the dvd of the 2005 race; and the short TV documentary on Mark Collins in the 2007 race) to get an idea of the range of different options that folk go for. Also, speak with non-virgins on the training runs and get their views / thoughts.

The receptacle (recepticle? sp) you use to carry your kit will also depend on how much kit you want to take over and above the bare minimum requirements under the rules. Some folk go minimalist; others just about take the proverbial kitchen sink. Again, this is personal choice, and you should get an idea of this from the film footage etc referred to above.

Sorry; this probably doesn't help very much; but it is a very open ended question that you raise, and there are many different possible answers. Probably almost as many answers as you could get to the question "What should I eat / drink during the whw race?"

Murdo
George Reid



Mar 18th, 2008 - 8:50 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Hi Marco
Although a race virgin ran plenty long runs races etc.
I like my hydration pack even if only for water, but I find it hard to get at a gel or anything else for that matter in a hurry, often have to take off pack to get at things. So I also wear a small bum bag for essential items.

For me I will have all esential items in hydration pack on race day and apart from top up of liquid it will never be opened, I will then carry enough food etc for between suport crew stops in bum bags which is also handy for gloves on/off etc.
Drama Queen



Mar 18th, 2008 - 9:13 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Dudes,
When you entered you signed up to a mandatory list of items that should be carried at all times. Check under 'Race Information - Equipment'. If you can fit all that into a bum bag then your bum is much bigger than mine.

You will have to have a rucky of some sort along with you just in case the conditions dictate that these essential items, plus possible others, do have to be carried.

Food stuff, anti-death pills, mobile phone and foot repair kit would go in the bum bag for me. The rest in the rucky.
Jon Cornall



Mar 18th, 2008 - 10:49 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Marco

As an out and out race virgin I have also been experimenting with backpacks etc. I am currently on my third different size and about to buy yet another one. I have also just bought a bumbag to try as well. I think by having my basic food requirements in the bum bag I will be more likely to eat on the move as I find it an extreme hassle taking off my pack just to get a few jelly-babies or a sandwich. I definitely will be carrying water in a bladder as well as energy drinks plus emergency food in the backpack in case I miss a meet with my support.

PS Anyone want to buy a backpack?

Jon C
ian



Mar 18th, 2008 - 11:42 PM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Hi Marco,

First of all, good luck in your first WHWR.
Ive tried all sorts of ways to carry enough stuff like yourself and these days I like to run as light as possible, with a small bum bag for a few bits of grub and a hand held bottle. My bottle has a cloth handle which makes it easy as you dont have to grip it continually. I got it from Tisos. The thing about the WHWR is that it is in stages so you will probably chop and change throughout.

Ian
Scott Oakes



Mar 19th, 2008 - 8:12 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Hi Marco

I've been using the Inov8 Race Pro 12 on long runs recently and have found it to be very good - quite large pockets around the waist making it easy to access food etc whilst running, also the waterproofing on it is quite good.

Cheers
Scott
Brian Mc

runningmiscellany.blogspot.com


Mar 19th, 2008 - 8:28 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

I use a Deuter double bottle holding hip pack for longer ultras and for shorter ultras have been using a Lowe Alpine single bottle job. It has recently been really aggravating me so I'm going to buy the new 4l OMM ultra waist pouch when it hits the shops at the end of April.

If I were using a rucksack I prefer to use the OMM 25l one, and put a camelback inside.
Andy Cole



Mar 19th, 2008 - 9:38 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

I always like the idea of rigid bottles (hand-held, hip-belt, etc) because it's much easier to judge how much you have used. Problem is, whenever I try them the sound of the fluid sloshing around after you have had the first drink drives me round the bend, so I go back to the Camelbak. Is this a common feeling or am I just strange.......
Brian Mc

runningmiscellany.blogspot.com


Mar 19th, 2008 - 2:22 PM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

sloosh sloosh
George Reid



Mar 20th, 2008 - 1:39 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

I agree Andy I dont like noise that comes from fluid or keys jingling or straps flapping.

My pack is a Lowe Alpine Wadi 15L with a bladder fitted, and all the extra bits cut off,as long as you take care their is no noise, the belt I use is a Scott which I have had for about 15 years and feels like part of me as long as I dont fill it with too much junk.
Ace



Apr 4th, 2008 - 6:20 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Inov8 Race Pro 12 is brilliant! Great product
Debs

www.debsonrunning.blogspot.com


Apr 4th, 2008 - 7:13 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Please stop! Marco has bought five packs already this year.
Marco

marcoonrunning.blogspot.com/


Apr 4th, 2008 - 7:23 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

yeah, I might catch up with Debs and her handbags...
Brian Mc

runningmiscellany.blogspot.com


Apr 4th, 2008 - 8:16 AM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

Ah yes, inside every running man is a secret Imelda Marcos - some come out in the form of excessive shoe purchasing, others come out in the form of excessive pack purchasing. Some come out in the form of excessive purchasing of everything shiny and new.

Marco - have a peek at this interesting looking pack - it's almost tempting ... g'wan ...

http://www.outdoorwarehouse.co.uk/acatalog/Aarn_Bodypacks.html
Tomo Thompson



May 13th, 2008 - 11:16 PM
Re: Bumbags n' sacks

may be of interest to some of you doing the WHW and or the UTMB
http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16346&category_id=251
for those of you with something to hide, they also do a "stealth" version
http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16363&category_id=251


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